How do YOU design your cycles

[PNWmuscle]

As the title says, how do YOU design your own cycles. There’s a lot of broscience, a lot of researched theory, all kinds of stuff. There’s the lucky guys who don’t aromatize much and blast high levels of test and dbol, then you got others who minimize e2 stuff with low dose test and compounds like primo and masteron. I’ve seen a lot of cycles on picking one compound from each tree: testosterone, dht, and 19-nor derivatives. There’s SO many combinations, so what is your preference and experience? How do you lay out your plan?

Myself personally, I’m newer to the game so I’m just trying out new compounds each go around.

 

[Bigmurph6]

I don’t want to go first but I have a specific way

 

[NeuroRN]

I think most importantly your goals have to be considered first. Mass? Cut? Strength? Etc. and then you start planning a cycle.

Personally I think there should be some room for experiencing new compounds that help you meet your goal. So the next step is- how important is this goal? Is it a comp? Just for fun? If you are competing I say stick with what you know works to reach your goal. If not? Pick something new You’ve wanted to try.

Consider risk vs reward. This is different for everyone.

I think the test, 19-nor, dht triangle is always a solid option.

I don’t really like not being lean so I won’t run heavy aromatizing agents.

It’s terms of the chemical synergy I will let those that know more chime in… but I do think goal setting is the more important first step.

 

[JB_rD81]

My cycles were pretty cut and dry when I was still competing, slowly (haha, never went slow) up test to 700-800 mg wk, introduce deca @ 600 mg wk and blast orals (typically a-bombs @ 50 mg day) for 3-4 weeks, then off, then back on for the last 2 full weeks of meet prep and the week of the meet. My wife’s trainer when she still competed was a doctor who competed in women’s BB, she would monitor my bloods as needed, but I was usually pretty bad at keeping up with that.

 

[Bigmurph6]

I start all my cycles with a natural cut except when I was cruising but I always try to cut down and make sure that my diet is on point and ready to go once I reach a goal I set before starting I believe this is important because if you can’t do it natty you can’t do it enhanced it will just be a waste.

Like @NeuroRN said your goals have to fit your cycle and diet plus training. So you have to figure out your goal.
Cut
Lean bulk
Bulk
These 3 are what I believe can actually be run.

Once you have decided your goal then put together your diet to fit your goal because diet is everything the most important part to achieving your goal.

Then plan your training regimen not your working out plan lol @Kad1 I had to lol

Once those are put together and being done then figure out your cycle which will need to fit your goals.
Compounds have ratings they are called
AAS which means Anabolic/Androgenic steroid testosterone is 100/100 trenbolone is 500/500 so compounds can very towards the anabolic side or the androgenic side this is why we stack compounds to fill these gaps.
The perfect cycle is without a doubt
Testosterone/nor19/dht this combination provides perfect synergistic activity between the 3 compounds but most don’t need anywhere near 3 compounds.
Most will only need testosterone it is perfectly balanced 100/100 so its perfect to run alone especially since it will provide you with testosterone because your system will stop natural production.

Once you get to your second cycle probably add proviron. This will super charge your testosterone by stopping aromatase by allowing more testosterone to bind and less to become estrogen.

The 3 cycles I spoke about were
Cut= in a caloric deficit

Lean bulk= bulking with above maintenance cals and heavy protein but lower carbs and fats

Bulk=bulking with well above maintenance calories plus heavy macros protein carbs and fats

There is a dirty bulk which I don’t reccomend because it is eating anything you see and you get really fat and it sucks cutting afterwards lol

The difference between these cycles has nothing to do with compounds the difference between these cycles is your diet plan.
I hope everyone is seeing that planning your cycle is all about planning your diet and compounds are the easy part.

 

[Rusty]

I am bulking now for a contest. I was leaning out but am gonna bulk for a month. Then take two months just TRT. Diet and cardio and hypertrophy. Then compounds I am thinking for next two months Test/Tren/eq front load. Proviron of course and something for pwo. Then after 8 weeks cut down slowly on Tren and continue eq and test for no extra month. Any input much appreciated.

 

[PNWmuscle]

Ooo giving tren another go huh?

 

[Kad1]

Great info. Unless you are a very young man or competing in something in my Opinion you should not dirty bulk. Absolutely no reason to eat like that

 

[Bigmurph6]

I tried it once and it took forever to lose the weight plus it was so unhealthy not reccomended

 

[Kad1]

Correct very unhealthy. This is a marathon not a sprint. Clean bulk will get you where you need to be

 

[Poppy]

35 years ago I basically ingested a bunch of stuff with little to no regard of health. Test, winstrolv, deca d, dbol and some other things I can’t remember.

I basically ended up at eq…test and dbol as pwo.

Im a hyperesponder to dbol…at anything above 10mg pwo i would get moon face and swell up big time. My head would get like a watermelon! Hahaha

15 years or so ago… just test with occasional dbol pwo for spurts.

10 years ago or so just test…

Last 3 years or so trt… maybe primo this summer.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I think what’s a classic cycle and then turn up it up to 11

 

[Poppy]

Diet i forgot diet…walked around at 198ish in my 30’s. No diet. Looked great felt great.

40’s ate myself to 242 for a run at pr’s on the platform. Felt terrible. Went back down to 220 and stayed there until 59th bday. Diet not needed until 55 or so then went to crap.

Currently on strictish diet down to 206.

 

[NeuroRN]

How long on eq?

 

[Dirtnasty]

Did you reach your goal of cut. Also take
It from the constant bulk cut is horrible for yiur body I would give a good amount of time to stay at homeostasis unless your jumping on stage

 

[Rusty]

Ya I said I would last time. But I needed to get my cholesterol in a good place first for the next trial. Can’t think of a better compound to get lean quickly

 

[Bigmurph6]

Clen or tren I don’t reccomend either honestly lol

 

[Rusty]

Thinking 20 weeks. I’ll be going past the contest by a couple months with it but it seems that is the typical eq run?

 

[Rusty]

I got down to 231 and decided to shoot for 220. But I wanna gain a little bulk and muscle before contest so when I cut I’ll have more muscle to pop. At least that’s my thought process with my little experience I am always open to suggestions

 

[Bigmurph6]

I think that you have a great idea going here but after you run the trenbolone and lean out with the test/tren/eq then get on test/mast/eq and you will get shrink wrapped and tight but you just gotta run a strong cut on the end.
You will come out looking like a MONSTAR